From the November 23, 2016, Google Alerts for Confederate.
** Sons of Confederate Veterans replace 78 flags taken from graves in Brunswick cemetery. (Brunswick, Georgia) The flags were taken in August from Confederate graves at Oak Grove Cemetery and replaced by members of the Thomas Marsh Forman Camp 485 SCV.
At first this was thought to be something done by Confederate-haters, but turned out to be the Oak Grove Cemetery Society who claimed that the flags, placed there in April, had been the victims of vandals and the elements.
--Old Secesh
The Battle of Fort Fisher, N.C.
Wednesday, November 30, 2016
Monday, November 28, 2016
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 390: Flag Situation in South Carolina
From the November 16, 2016, Google Alerts for Confederatw.
** Restaurant owner opposed in bid to lower Confederate Flag. (Orangeburg, S.C.) (Split Decision) Tommy Daras wanted to take the flag down from land by his restaurant, the Edisto River Creamery and Kitchen, saying it was bad for business.
But, the SCV say they own the small plot of land the flag is on. They received the deed to it back in 2005 from the former restaurant owner. It was formerly part of a bbq chain called Maurice's, owned by Maurice Bessinger, who had a dozen restaurants serving the local mustard-based yellow bbq sauce. He was very pro-Confederate and flew the flag at his stores and had Confederate literature.
In this case, the SCV should give or sell the land back to the new owner.
--Old Secesh
** Restaurant owner opposed in bid to lower Confederate Flag. (Orangeburg, S.C.) (Split Decision) Tommy Daras wanted to take the flag down from land by his restaurant, the Edisto River Creamery and Kitchen, saying it was bad for business.
But, the SCV say they own the small plot of land the flag is on. They received the deed to it back in 2005 from the former restaurant owner. It was formerly part of a bbq chain called Maurice's, owned by Maurice Bessinger, who had a dozen restaurants serving the local mustard-based yellow bbq sauce. He was very pro-Confederate and flew the flag at his stores and had Confederate literature.
In this case, the SCV should give or sell the land back to the new owner.
--Old Secesh
Friday, November 25, 2016
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 389: Recommendations on Virginia Statues
From the November 11-14, 2016, Google Alerts for Confederate.
** Charlottesville panel reports on Confederate statues. (Virginia) (Split Decision). They recommend that the Lee and Jackson statues remain, but want the parks around them renamed and redesigned. Well, at least they want the statues to remain.
--Old secesh
** Charlottesville panel reports on Confederate statues. (Virginia) (Split Decision). They recommend that the Lee and Jackson statues remain, but want the parks around them renamed and redesigned. Well, at least they want the statues to remain.
--Old secesh
Thursday, November 24, 2016
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 388: Illinois, Virginia and New York
From the November 10-11, 2016, Google Alerts for Confederate.
** Prairie Ridge High School suspends student for wearing Confederate Flag to school. (Crystal Lake, Illinois) (Well). He wore it evidently as a cape. That is a bit much. There should be no problems with the flag on a tee shirt, but a cape is overdoing it.
** Confederate monument defaced with anti-Trump Graffiti in Richmond. (Virginia) (Loss) Well, at least it isn't BLM or something such.
** Pro-Trump protesters fly Confederate Flag at Le Moyne College, ant-Trump march held. (Syracuse, New York) (Loss) that is as bad as the KKK or any racist group flying it.
--Old Secesh
** Prairie Ridge High School suspends student for wearing Confederate Flag to school. (Crystal Lake, Illinois) (Well). He wore it evidently as a cape. That is a bit much. There should be no problems with the flag on a tee shirt, but a cape is overdoing it.
** Confederate monument defaced with anti-Trump Graffiti in Richmond. (Virginia) (Loss) Well, at least it isn't BLM or something such.
** Pro-Trump protesters fly Confederate Flag at Le Moyne College, ant-Trump march held. (Syracuse, New York) (Loss) that is as bad as the KKK or any racist group flying it.
--Old Secesh
Wednesday, November 23, 2016
Red River Campaign Conclusion
From Wikipedia.
Strength and casualties:
Union-- 30,000 with 5,500 casualties
Confederate-- 6,000-15,000 with 4,300 casualties.
** A Union failure and the campaign did not have a major impact on the war.
** It might have prolonged the war, though because it diverted the Union effort to capture the much more important Mobile, Alabama.
** It effectively ended Union General Nathaniel Banks' military career.
** The presence of cotton speculators and use of military boats to remove the cotton plagued his political career in later years.
** Admiral Porter and the Navy seized a whole lot of cotton and made a lot of money.
** The Confederacy lost two very able generals in Green and Mouton.
** The Confederacy suffered casualties it could afford to lose.
** It really wasn't a pressing military objective because with the fall of Vicksburg and Union control of the Mississippi River, the area was already cut off.
--Old Secesh
Strength and casualties:
Union-- 30,000 with 5,500 casualties
Confederate-- 6,000-15,000 with 4,300 casualties.
** A Union failure and the campaign did not have a major impact on the war.
** It might have prolonged the war, though because it diverted the Union effort to capture the much more important Mobile, Alabama.
** It effectively ended Union General Nathaniel Banks' military career.
** The presence of cotton speculators and use of military boats to remove the cotton plagued his political career in later years.
** Admiral Porter and the Navy seized a whole lot of cotton and made a lot of money.
** The Confederacy lost two very able generals in Green and Mouton.
** The Confederacy suffered casualties it could afford to lose.
** It really wasn't a pressing military objective because with the fall of Vicksburg and Union control of the Mississippi River, the area was already cut off.
--Old Secesh
Tuesday, November 22, 2016
The Red River Campaign's Objectives
From Wikipedia.
1. Destroy Richard Taylor's Confederate Army.
2. Capture Shreveport, Louisiana, Confederate headquarters of the Trans-Mississippi Department.
3. Control of the Red River.
4. The occupation of East Texas.
5. Confiscate as many as 100,000 bales of cotton from plantations and warehouses along the Red River.
6. Organize a pro-Union government in the region.
There are some historians who also believe the presence of 25,000 French troops in Mexico and Emperor Maximillian also had something to do with it.
--Old Secesh
1. Destroy Richard Taylor's Confederate Army.
2. Capture Shreveport, Louisiana, Confederate headquarters of the Trans-Mississippi Department.
3. Control of the Red River.
4. The occupation of East Texas.
5. Confiscate as many as 100,000 bales of cotton from plantations and warehouses along the Red River.
6. Organize a pro-Union government in the region.
There are some historians who also believe the presence of 25,000 French troops in Mexico and Emperor Maximillian also had something to do with it.
--Old Secesh
Monday, November 21, 2016
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 387: The Shame of louisville
From the November 20, 2016, Google Alerts for Confederate.
The Confederate Memorial in louisville was taken down over the weekend and now will be given to the town of Brandenbury. It stood to honor those from the Louisville area who risked their lives fighting for the Confederacy and was 70 feet tall and stood there for 121 years.
Some want a statue to Muhammed Ali put up there in its place. As we all know, he certainly risked his life for the country that enabled him to become so famous and rich.
And, I was thinking of going to louisville for the Kentucky Derby. I think not. For its shame, louisville now will be relegated to lower case.
And, the city and college did not even pay the required million dollars to remove a Confederate monument.
Like Rodney Dangerfield Said, "I Tell You, I Can't Get Any ...." --Old Secesh
The Confederate Memorial in louisville was taken down over the weekend and now will be given to the town of Brandenbury. It stood to honor those from the Louisville area who risked their lives fighting for the Confederacy and was 70 feet tall and stood there for 121 years.
Some want a statue to Muhammed Ali put up there in its place. As we all know, he certainly risked his life for the country that enabled him to become so famous and rich.
And, I was thinking of going to louisville for the Kentucky Derby. I think not. For its shame, louisville now will be relegated to lower case.
And, the city and college did not even pay the required million dollars to remove a Confederate monument.
Like Rodney Dangerfield Said, "I Tell You, I Can't Get Any ...." --Old Secesh
And, In the Meantime, Shootings and Killings Mount
WXRT in Chicago reports this morning that in Chicago over the weekend, that police are investigating 30 shootings and 9 fatalities. Most are black.
In other news, one policeman was executed in San Antonio and three others in other states were wounded. Wonder who was involved in these?
I also read that since the beginning of the year, 58 police officers across the United States have been killed in line of duty.
Looks Like Someone Has declared War. Wonder Who? --Old Secesh
In other news, one policeman was executed in San Antonio and three others in other states were wounded. Wonder who was involved in these?
I also read that since the beginning of the year, 58 police officers across the United States have been killed in line of duty.
Looks Like Someone Has declared War. Wonder Who? --Old Secesh
Bailey's Dam at Alexandria, Louisiana
From Wikipedia.
In the last post I wrote about Bailey's Dam which resulted in the saving of Admiral Porter's fleet during the Red River Campaign when it raised the river's water level high enough for the ships to pass through some very shallow water.
The site was listed on the NRHP in 1976. Remnants of it could be seen at low water until 1987 when the United States Corps of Engineers completed the John Overton Lock and Dam downstream which flooded the site.
Before flooding it, however, the Corps sponsored archaeological excavations of it.
--Old Secesh
In the last post I wrote about Bailey's Dam which resulted in the saving of Admiral Porter's fleet during the Red River Campaign when it raised the river's water level high enough for the ships to pass through some very shallow water.
The site was listed on the NRHP in 1976. Remnants of it could be seen at low water until 1987 when the United States Corps of Engineers completed the John Overton Lock and Dam downstream which flooded the site.
Before flooding it, however, the Corps sponsored archaeological excavations of it.
--Old Secesh
Friday, November 18, 2016
MCCWRT Meeting-- Part 8: Red River Campaign-- Bailey and the Dam
On April 23, 1864, there was an engagement at Monett's Ferry and banks was able to get away to safety.
In the meantime, Admiral Porter's Union fleet was in dire straits at Alexandria as the Red River was too low for his ships to pass there. It was six feet lower than usual and the gunboats were stranded. The Union faced the serious possibility of having to destroy its entire fleet.
Enter Joseph Bailey who suggested temporary dams to raise the water level and enable the ships to pass over the shallows. The first dam broke, but the USS Lexington and some ships did manage to get through to safety before the river got too shallow again.
It was rebuilt, along with wing dams upriver. It was opened May 13 and all of Porter's ships got through this time.
Then on May 20th, the Union Army was unable to cross the Atchafalaya River because of high water. It was Bailey to the rescue again when he had steamers line up, placed planks across them and a temporary bridge made.
For his efforts, Bailey was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Some Kind of Engineer, That Joseph Bailey. --Old Secesh
In the meantime, Admiral Porter's Union fleet was in dire straits at Alexandria as the Red River was too low for his ships to pass there. It was six feet lower than usual and the gunboats were stranded. The Union faced the serious possibility of having to destroy its entire fleet.
Enter Joseph Bailey who suggested temporary dams to raise the water level and enable the ships to pass over the shallows. The first dam broke, but the USS Lexington and some ships did manage to get through to safety before the river got too shallow again.
It was rebuilt, along with wing dams upriver. It was opened May 13 and all of Porter's ships got through this time.
Then on May 20th, the Union Army was unable to cross the Atchafalaya River because of high water. It was Bailey to the rescue again when he had steamers line up, placed planks across them and a temporary bridge made.
For his efforts, Bailey was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Some Kind of Engineer, That Joseph Bailey. --Old Secesh
Thursday, November 17, 2016
Nov. MCCWRT Meeting, the Red River Campaign-- Part 7: Confederate General Green Loses His Head
The shallowness of the Red River had become a major problem for Porter's gunboats and in addition, Confederate troops and artillery began attacking the Union ships from the river banks. Porter began going back down the river.
One of the best generals on the Confederate side, Thomas Green, was decapitated by a shot from the USS Osage that was directed by a periscope, one of the first time this devise was used in battle. His loss hurt the Confederate side badly.
The USS Eastport hit a torpedo and eventually the Union force had to blow it up to prevent its capture.
At this time, Richard Taylor lost many of his troops who were taken to fight the Union advance from Little Rock.On April 23rd, there was an engagement at Monett's Ferry, but Banks was getting away.
--Old Secesh
One of the best generals on the Confederate side, Thomas Green, was decapitated by a shot from the USS Osage that was directed by a periscope, one of the first time this devise was used in battle. His loss hurt the Confederate side badly.
The USS Eastport hit a torpedo and eventually the Union force had to blow it up to prevent its capture.
At this time, Richard Taylor lost many of his troops who were taken to fight the Union advance from Little Rock.On April 23rd, there was an engagement at Monett's Ferry, but Banks was getting away.
--Old Secesh
Wednesday, November 16, 2016
Nov. MCCWRT Meeting-- Part 6: The Red River Campaign Union Wins Battle of Pleasant Hill, Porter Continues Up the River
On April 5, 1864, the Battle of Pleasant Hill was fought. It was not really a hill, but more of a small rise. The Union forces won this battle even though they had possibly one of the sorriest defensive positions ever during the war.
Even with the win, Banks did not go on the offensive.
In the meantime, Union Admiral Porter was continuing up the Red River, despite the low water level. He was still expecting to rendezvous with Banks upriver. The Confederates had sunk the steamer New Falls City across the channel to impede his progress.Near Shreveport, the Confederates had also blown up a dam and further diverted some 75% of the Red River's flow into a nearby bayou.
--Old Secesh
Even with the win, Banks did not go on the offensive.
In the meantime, Union Admiral Porter was continuing up the Red River, despite the low water level. He was still expecting to rendezvous with Banks upriver. The Confederates had sunk the steamer New Falls City across the channel to impede his progress.Near Shreveport, the Confederates had also blown up a dam and further diverted some 75% of the Red River's flow into a nearby bayou.
--Old Secesh
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 386: Trump's Election, Perhaps the Beginning of a Backlash?
From the November 8-10, 2016, Google Alerts for Confederate.
** Drivers wave Confederate Flags, Donald Trump signs at Florida polls. (Not Sure) Perhaps the long-awaited backlash against the Confederate bashers is under way. Donald Trump's surprising election win might just signal it. But, please don't wave Confederate Flags at blacks. It is like waving the red flag in front of a bull. By the way, I voted for Clinton.
** ** Authorities investigate arson at Confederate Memorial Hall Museum. (New Orleans) (Loss) Just imagine if pro-Confederate folk vandalized a black memorial or museum. That would be racism. Not so when it's the other way around.
--Old Secesh
** Drivers wave Confederate Flags, Donald Trump signs at Florida polls. (Not Sure) Perhaps the long-awaited backlash against the Confederate bashers is under way. Donald Trump's surprising election win might just signal it. But, please don't wave Confederate Flags at blacks. It is like waving the red flag in front of a bull. By the way, I voted for Clinton.
** ** Authorities investigate arson at Confederate Memorial Hall Museum. (New Orleans) (Loss) Just imagine if pro-Confederate folk vandalized a black memorial or museum. That would be racism. Not so when it's the other way around.
--Old Secesh
Tuesday, November 15, 2016
Nov. MCCWRT-- Part 6: Red River Campaign-- The Battle of Mansfield
The Union forces now veered inland to follow a road at Grand Ecore, about half way between Alexandria and Shreveport.
In the meantime, Confederate General Richard Taylor had been reinforced and now had enough men to fight Smith. In addition, he also now had cavalry to serve as his eyes on Union movements.
The Union forces were heading toward Mansfield, but Taylor set up a defensive position at Sabine's Crossroads and a battle took place there on April 4, 1864. It goes by two names, the Battle of Mansfield and the Battle of Sabine's Crossroads.
The Confederates had a numerical advantage at this battle, 8,000 to 4,400. Confederate officers rode their horses into battle and many were killed or wounded, but the Union line was forced back. Banks lost 2200 men and Confederates 1,000.
--Old Secesh
In the meantime, Confederate General Richard Taylor had been reinforced and now had enough men to fight Smith. In addition, he also now had cavalry to serve as his eyes on Union movements.
The Union forces were heading toward Mansfield, but Taylor set up a defensive position at Sabine's Crossroads and a battle took place there on April 4, 1864. It goes by two names, the Battle of Mansfield and the Battle of Sabine's Crossroads.
The Confederates had a numerical advantage at this battle, 8,000 to 4,400. Confederate officers rode their horses into battle and many were killed or wounded, but the Union line was forced back. Banks lost 2200 men and Confederates 1,000.
--Old Secesh
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 385: White Driver Beaten By Black Men in Chicago
This happened recently after the election of Donald Trump. A white man was driving in a mostly-black area of Chicago when he was stopped, pulled from his vehicle and badly beaten by a group of blacks. It was recorded on a cell phone and the scene has been replaying a lot on local media.
Remarkably, Black Lives Matter, the NAACP and Jesse Jackson and others have not said anything about this. Just imagine had it been a black person beaten by a group of whites. I imagine we might have heard something from them.
If this is not a racially tinged hate crime, I don't know what is.
--Old Secesh
Remarkably, Black Lives Matter, the NAACP and Jesse Jackson and others have not said anything about this. Just imagine had it been a black person beaten by a group of whites. I imagine we might have heard something from them.
If this is not a racially tinged hate crime, I don't know what is.
--Old Secesh
Monday, November 14, 2016
Nov. MCCWRT Meeting-- Part 5: Red River Campaign, CSA-USN and Low Water
Cotton was a major factor in the drive to Shreveport. The U.S. Navy got to Alexandria, Louisiana, first and immediately set about "procuring" as much cotton as they could get their hands on. This was cotton money that would go to the Navy, not the Army..
They even went so far as to stamp CSA on the cotton to make it o.k. to take. The Army had a put-down joke concerning such bales as this that they came across, stamped with both CSA and USN. The letters, they said, stood for Cotton Stealing Association of the United States Navy.
A major problem, other than the rivalry to get the cotton, but one more of a threat to mission success was the low level of the Red River. The expedition was planned during the spring to take advantage of high water, but 1864, the spring flooding that might be expected did not come. There were some major shallows at Alexandria that proved to be time-consuming and hard work to get over.
The largest Union warship, the USS Eastport really got stuck and took an extreme lot of effort to get it refloated and past the shallows. After more effort, the Navy managed to get 13 gunboats over it.
--Old Secesh
They even went so far as to stamp CSA on the cotton to make it o.k. to take. The Army had a put-down joke concerning such bales as this that they came across, stamped with both CSA and USN. The letters, they said, stood for Cotton Stealing Association of the United States Navy.
A major problem, other than the rivalry to get the cotton, but one more of a threat to mission success was the low level of the Red River. The expedition was planned during the spring to take advantage of high water, but 1864, the spring flooding that might be expected did not come. There were some major shallows at Alexandria that proved to be time-consuming and hard work to get over.
The largest Union warship, the USS Eastport really got stuck and took an extreme lot of effort to get it refloated and past the shallows. After more effort, the Navy managed to get 13 gunboats over it.
--Old Secesh
Nov. MCCWRT Meeting: The Red River Campaign-- Part 4: A Two-Pronged Assault
Union General Banks had 25,000 troops overall, but his main general, Andrew J. Smith, and he didn't get along well. The Confederates opposing them were under the overall command of Edmund Kirby Smith, but his subordinate, Gen. Richard Taylor was in tactical command.
Taylor had some 7,000 men and no cavalry to screen his movements or scout the enemy.
The Union plan called for a two-pronged movement against Shreveport. The main one was to go up the Red River while a smaller one would approach from Little Rock, Arkansas.
Union forces captured Fort DeRussy and the overwhelmed Taylor began falling back up the Red River.
--Old Secesh
Taylor had some 7,000 men and no cavalry to screen his movements or scout the enemy.
The Union plan called for a two-pronged movement against Shreveport. The main one was to go up the Red River while a smaller one would approach from Little Rock, Arkansas.
Union forces captured Fort DeRussy and the overwhelmed Taylor began falling back up the Red River.
--Old Secesh
Friday, November 11, 2016
Nov. MCCWRT Meeting-- Part 3: The Red River Campaign
In early 1864, the Red River Expedition was launched with Shreveport, Louisiana, as its objective. The overall Union general in charge, Nathaniel Banks, was a political general who had been moved out west after being embarrassed and thoroughly trounced by Stonewall Jackson in the Shenandoah Valley in Virginia.
He was a powerful Massachusetts politician and had been moved in 1863 and made head of the Department of the Gulf.
For the campaign, Banks had a total of 25,000 troops overall along with the Mississippi Squadron under Admiral David D. Porter which consisted of 30 gunboats, many transports and the Marine Brigade.
One of Banks' generals was Andrew W. Smith, who accompanied Porter's fleet up the Red River. Smith and Banks did not like each other at all.
--Old Secesh
He was a powerful Massachusetts politician and had been moved in 1863 and made head of the Department of the Gulf.
For the campaign, Banks had a total of 25,000 troops overall along with the Mississippi Squadron under Admiral David D. Porter which consisted of 30 gunboats, many transports and the Marine Brigade.
One of Banks' generals was Andrew W. Smith, who accompanied Porter's fleet up the Red River. Smith and Banks did not like each other at all.
--Old Secesh
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 384: A Different Kind of Confederate Flag
From the November 4 and 7, 2016, Google Alerts for Confederate.
** Evidence: Officer was wearing Confederate Flag T-shirt. (Cincinnati, Ohio) (Loss) A University of Cincinnati police officer was wearing it when he fatally shot and unarmed black man last year. I figure he must have been off-duty as that definitely is not part of the uniform.
** Alberta politicians condemn Confederate-style flag at Red Deer protest. (Canada) It was a protest against a carbon tax and someone had a Confederate Flag where the stars had been substituted for Canadian maple leafs.
--Old Secesh
** Evidence: Officer was wearing Confederate Flag T-shirt. (Cincinnati, Ohio) (Loss) A University of Cincinnati police officer was wearing it when he fatally shot and unarmed black man last year. I figure he must have been off-duty as that definitely is not part of the uniform.
** Alberta politicians condemn Confederate-style flag at Red Deer protest. (Canada) It was a protest against a carbon tax and someone had a Confederate Flag where the stars had been substituted for Canadian maple leafs.
--Old Secesh
Thursday, November 10, 2016
November MCCWRT Meeting-- Part 2: The Red River Campaign
Pat McCormick was this evening's keynote speaker and talked about the Union's ill-fated Red River Campaign, summing it up as a textbook example of how not to conduct a campaign and one that was really not necessary.
Overall, it took place because of Texas, even though it took place in Louisiana. It was hoped that it would get the cotton-raising non-slave-owning Germans there as well as many pro-Unionists to break away from the Confederacy.
And, another big reason was for cotton and cotton speculation.. Politicians in New England were putting pressure on Lincoln to get Texas because of the cotton needed for their textile factories.
Another reason to worry about Texas was because of the increasing French presence in Mexico as well as Confederate supplies coming across the Rio Grande River between Matamoras and Brownsville, Texas.
An earlier attempt to invade Texas had been stopped by Dick Dowling and his force at Fort Griffin at the Battle of Sabine Pass.
--Old Secesh
Overall, it took place because of Texas, even though it took place in Louisiana. It was hoped that it would get the cotton-raising non-slave-owning Germans there as well as many pro-Unionists to break away from the Confederacy.
And, another big reason was for cotton and cotton speculation.. Politicians in New England were putting pressure on Lincoln to get Texas because of the cotton needed for their textile factories.
Another reason to worry about Texas was because of the increasing French presence in Mexico as well as Confederate supplies coming across the Rio Grande River between Matamoras and Brownsville, Texas.
An earlier attempt to invade Texas had been stopped by Dick Dowling and his force at Fort Griffin at the Battle of Sabine Pass.
--Old Secesh
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 383: Last Mississippi University Takes Down State Flag
From the Google Alerts of November 3- 4, 2016, for Confederate.
** Iowa Cop Shooting Suspect Had Been Ejected From High School Football Game For Confederate Flag. (Des Moines, Iowa) (Loss) News like this certainly doesn't help our cause.
** Last university furls Mississippi's Confederate-themed flag. (Delta State University) (Loss) Again, I sure do not know why the state's government continues to fund these schools.
No Fly, No Pay. --Old Secesh
** Iowa Cop Shooting Suspect Had Been Ejected From High School Football Game For Confederate Flag. (Des Moines, Iowa) (Loss) News like this certainly doesn't help our cause.
** Last university furls Mississippi's Confederate-themed flag. (Delta State University) (Loss) Again, I sure do not know why the state's government continues to fund these schools.
No Fly, No Pay. --Old Secesh
Wednesday, November 9, 2016
November MCCWRT Meeting-- Part 1: Elections and Christmas Party
Yesterday, November 8, 2016, the McHenry County Civil War Round Table (Illinois) met at the Woodstock Public Library.
Before that, several of us had dinner at Papa G's on the historic Woodstock Square, so famously featured in the movie "Groundhog Day." Always good conversation and eating. And, not always on the Civil War.
We had elections and everyone was voted in to their current offices. Like most organizations, it is hard to get folks like me involved.
December 4th, we are having our annual Christmas Party at Grand Old Mill in Wonder Lake, built in 1866, the year after the war. Mary Todd Lincoln will be featured doing a presentation on her spiritualism.
The discussion group will meet Saturday, November 26, at Panera Bread in Crystal Lake. Topic will be U.S. Grant from Fort Donelson.
The December Discussion Group meeting is moved up to the third Saturday, December 17, as the fourth Saturday is Christmas Eve.
--Old Secesh
Before that, several of us had dinner at Papa G's on the historic Woodstock Square, so famously featured in the movie "Groundhog Day." Always good conversation and eating. And, not always on the Civil War.
We had elections and everyone was voted in to their current offices. Like most organizations, it is hard to get folks like me involved.
December 4th, we are having our annual Christmas Party at Grand Old Mill in Wonder Lake, built in 1866, the year after the war. Mary Todd Lincoln will be featured doing a presentation on her spiritualism.
The discussion group will meet Saturday, November 26, at Panera Bread in Crystal Lake. Topic will be U.S. Grant from Fort Donelson.
The December Discussion Group meeting is moved up to the third Saturday, December 17, as the fourth Saturday is Christmas Eve.
--Old Secesh
Tuesday, November 8, 2016
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 382: Let's Trade Parade Dates in Virginia
From the November 3, 2016, Google Alerts for Confederate.
** Confederate Flag group seeks permit for parade on MLK Day in Lexington. (Virginia) (Win) The Virginia Flaggers actually want to trade dates for the one the black group got to have a parade on the day that the local SCV group has a parade for Lee-Jackson Day.
Well, if they can parade on our day, we can parade on their day. But a trade would be in the best interest of the two sides.
--Old Secesh
** Confederate Flag group seeks permit for parade on MLK Day in Lexington. (Virginia) (Win) The Virginia Flaggers actually want to trade dates for the one the black group got to have a parade on the day that the local SCV group has a parade for Lee-Jackson Day.
Well, if they can parade on our day, we can parade on their day. But a trade would be in the best interest of the two sides.
--Old Secesh
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 381: New Orleans Monument Vandalized
From the November 1, 2016, Google Alerts for Confederate.
** New Orleans Confederate monument vandalized. (Loss) Well, it actually is not a Confederate monument. "Take 'Em All Down Now" spray-painted on the Liberty Place monument.
Again, of the four monuments, this is the one that has the least to do with the Confederacy and it would be alright with me if they moved it. But vandalizing is never the answer. Imagine if someone vandalized one of "their" monuments like that.
--Old Secesh
** New Orleans Confederate monument vandalized. (Loss) Well, it actually is not a Confederate monument. "Take 'Em All Down Now" spray-painted on the Liberty Place monument.
Again, of the four monuments, this is the one that has the least to do with the Confederacy and it would be alright with me if they moved it. But vandalizing is never the answer. Imagine if someone vandalized one of "their" monuments like that.
--Old Secesh
Monday, November 7, 2016
And, Meanwhile, the Murders Continue in Chicago
From Hey Jackass Murders and Mayhem in Chicago site.
For the week of October 30 to November 5, 2016:
MURDERS: 29
WOUNDED: 112
For the year 2016 to date:
MURDERS: 606
WOUNDED: 3803
The vast majority of these murders and people wounded are blacks shooting other blacks. Yep, Black Lives Matter.
The vast majority of these murders and people wounded are blacks shooting other blacks. Yep, Black Lives Matter.
And the NAACP is all hot and bothered about some Confederate Flags and people honoring their ancestors.
Looks Like They Would Have Something Better to Do. --Old Secesh
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 380: NAACP Gets Its Way...Again
From the November 1, 2016, Google Alerts for Confederate.
** Confederate Flags banned at upcoming conference. (York Technical College, South Carolina) (Loss) The South Carolina Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans is having their annual conference there next May. The NAACP protested it and the school banned flags and is looking for ways to get out of the contract.
Personally, if I were the S.C. SCV, I'd cancel the contract. However, if the SCV can't use the facilities, neither should the NAACP or any other black racist or divisive group.
Fair's Fair. --Old Secesh
** Confederate Flags banned at upcoming conference. (York Technical College, South Carolina) (Loss) The South Carolina Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans is having their annual conference there next May. The NAACP protested it and the school banned flags and is looking for ways to get out of the contract.
Personally, if I were the S.C. SCV, I'd cancel the contract. However, if the SCV can't use the facilities, neither should the NAACP or any other black racist or divisive group.
Fair's Fair. --Old Secesh
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 379: About Those Gay Flags and Confederate Flags
From the October 31, 2016, Google Alerts for Confederate.
** Is the Confederate Flag Constitutionally Protected? Not at this high school. (Christian Science Monitor) (Bloomington North High School. This is the one where students protesting the presence of Gay flags were disciplined because they wore tee-shirts and capes with Confederate Flags.
The principal says the Confederate Flags are too disruptive. (And, of course, Gay flags aren't.)
--Old Secesh
** Is the Confederate Flag Constitutionally Protected? Not at this high school. (Christian Science Monitor) (Bloomington North High School. This is the one where students protesting the presence of Gay flags were disciplined because they wore tee-shirts and capes with Confederate Flags.
The principal says the Confederate Flags are too disruptive. (And, of course, Gay flags aren't.)
--Old Secesh
Friday, November 4, 2016
Ten Fascinating War Artifacts From Tennessee-- Part 2:Button and a Spy Map
3. UNION BUTTON-- Tony Guin holds a collection of Union buttons discovered at a construction site off the Charlotte Pike. Almost 200 buttons found in what had been a Civil War burn pile which was part of a field hospital for small pox victims. No doubt they were from burned uniforms,
4. SPY MAP OF NASHVILLE-- A hand-drawn Confederate map made in pencil showing downtown Nashville, gun positions along the Cumberland River, fortifications around the State Capitol building, a military graveyard and Fort Negley.
It also recommends approaches to the city. A lot of spying going on around Middle Tennessee.
--Old Secesh
4. SPY MAP OF NASHVILLE-- A hand-drawn Confederate map made in pencil showing downtown Nashville, gun positions along the Cumberland River, fortifications around the State Capitol building, a military graveyard and Fort Negley.
It also recommends approaches to the city. A lot of spying going on around Middle Tennessee.
--Old Secesh
Ten Fascinating War Artifacts From Tennessee-- Part 1: A Half Boot and a Drum
From the Nashville Tennesseean.
The Looking Back Project in Tennessee, sponsored by the State Library and Archives has sent teams of archivists and conservators across the state to document artifacts in the possession of every day Tennesseeans.
Some 4,000 of them have been documented over the last four years.
1. HALF BOOT-- Customized by a Union cobbler for injured and hospitalized a Confederate soldier named David Dotson, who was wounded at the Battle of Franklin in Tennessee.
2. UNION DRUM-- Union bass drum with writing on it around the drumhead with the names of the battles of Shiloh, Chickamauga and Stone's River.
--Old Secesh
The Looking Back Project in Tennessee, sponsored by the State Library and Archives has sent teams of archivists and conservators across the state to document artifacts in the possession of every day Tennesseeans.
Some 4,000 of them have been documented over the last four years.
1. HALF BOOT-- Customized by a Union cobbler for injured and hospitalized a Confederate soldier named David Dotson, who was wounded at the Battle of Franklin in Tennessee.
2. UNION DRUM-- Union bass drum with writing on it around the drumhead with the names of the battles of Shiloh, Chickamauga and Stone's River.
--Old Secesh
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 378: Gay Flags OK, Confederate Flags Not in Indiana
From the October 28-29, 2016, Google Alerts for Confederate.
* National Cathedral faces calls to remove windows with Confederate generals. (Washington, D.C.) (Loss) Hope someone is prepared to come up with two million dollars, $1 million for each. Remember, remove some Confederate, pay $1 million.
** School flies an LGBTQ Flags. Students wear Confederate Flags. Guess Which One Gets Banned? (Bloomington, Indiana) (Loss) Students were protesting the presence of Gay flags, one in the library, the other in a teacher's room.
Of course, the Confederate Flags got banned. Gay ok, Confederate not.
Something Mighty Wrong Here. --Old Secesh
* National Cathedral faces calls to remove windows with Confederate generals. (Washington, D.C.) (Loss) Hope someone is prepared to come up with two million dollars, $1 million for each. Remember, remove some Confederate, pay $1 million.
** School flies an LGBTQ Flags. Students wear Confederate Flags. Guess Which One Gets Banned? (Bloomington, Indiana) (Loss) Students were protesting the presence of Gay flags, one in the library, the other in a teacher's room.
Of course, the Confederate Flags got banned. Gay ok, Confederate not.
Something Mighty Wrong Here. --Old Secesh
Thursday, November 3, 2016
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 377: Get the Parade Permit Early
From the October 28, 2016, Google Alerts for Confederate.
** Anti-racism group to displace Confederate parade in Lexington. (Virginia) (Loss) For the last 15 years the parade has been held January 14, for the Lee-Jackson birthdays. There were lots of re-enactors dressed as Confederate soldiers and flags. The anti-racism group got the permit first.
Just because you are proud of your heritage, that does not make you a racist. I don't do anything against their heritage, don't mess with mine.
Solution to the problem would be to have the parade on a different day. And, next year, get there early for the permit.
--Old Secesh
** Anti-racism group to displace Confederate parade in Lexington. (Virginia) (Loss) For the last 15 years the parade has been held January 14, for the Lee-Jackson birthdays. There were lots of re-enactors dressed as Confederate soldiers and flags. The anti-racism group got the permit first.
Just because you are proud of your heritage, that does not make you a racist. I don't do anything against their heritage, don't mess with mine.
Solution to the problem would be to have the parade on a different day. And, next year, get there early for the permit.
--Old Secesh
Wednesday, November 2, 2016
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 376: What About Those D.C. Confederate Memorials?
** There are still six Confederate Memorials around Washington, D.C. How's that possible?
They are:
1. The Mary Surratt House (But I always thought that was more involved with the assassination.)
2. Rebel graves at Arlington National Cemetery. (Which is on the grounds of Robert E. lee's former house.)
3. Lee's Arlington House (at the National Cemetery)
4. Confederate statues in the U.S. Capitol's National Statuary Hall.
5. Rockville's Thing Gray Line (honoring Confederate soldiers from that town).
6. Lee-Jackson windows at the National Cathedral.
The author obviously wants all removed. Let's see, at a million bucks apiece, the author will have to come up with some serious dough. Remember, since we can't possibly win in the courts or with politicians, any Confederate memorial eliminated or moved should cost the offenders a million dollars each.
--Old Secesh
They are:
1. The Mary Surratt House (But I always thought that was more involved with the assassination.)
2. Rebel graves at Arlington National Cemetery. (Which is on the grounds of Robert E. lee's former house.)
3. Lee's Arlington House (at the National Cemetery)
4. Confederate statues in the U.S. Capitol's National Statuary Hall.
5. Rockville's Thing Gray Line (honoring Confederate soldiers from that town).
6. Lee-Jackson windows at the National Cathedral.
The author obviously wants all removed. Let's see, at a million bucks apiece, the author will have to come up with some serious dough. Remember, since we can't possibly win in the courts or with politicians, any Confederate memorial eliminated or moved should cost the offenders a million dollars each.
--Old Secesh
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 375: Banning That Flag
From the October 24 and 27, 2016, Google Alerts for Confederate.
** Confederate Flag ban at Natchez Cemetery creating controversy. (Mississippi) (Loss) The fact there is a ban is a loss.
** Bloomington school bars Confederate Flag after complaints. (Indiana) (Loss) Bloomington North High School. Some students wore Confederate Flag tee-shirts and hats with the flag. There was a complaint, maybe two, and as a result the banning.
I sure wish my complaint about something would carry as much weight as those of people of a certain race. I could sure think of a few things I'd like to complain about and then have them banned. But that is not likely to happen.
Little Old Me, No Voice. --Old Secesh
** Confederate Flag ban at Natchez Cemetery creating controversy. (Mississippi) (Loss) The fact there is a ban is a loss.
** Bloomington school bars Confederate Flag after complaints. (Indiana) (Loss) Bloomington North High School. Some students wore Confederate Flag tee-shirts and hats with the flag. There was a complaint, maybe two, and as a result the banning.
I sure wish my complaint about something would carry as much weight as those of people of a certain race. I could sure think of a few things I'd like to complain about and then have them banned. But that is not likely to happen.
Little Old Me, No Voice. --Old Secesh
Tuesday, November 1, 2016
And, Speaking of Idiots...That Charleston Murderer's Trial Begins
It was the unbelievable murders of the nine innocents at the Charleston church that really kicked all this anti-Confederate hatred into high gear. It was bad before, but now it has grown way out of control.
I'm hoping the murderer, whose name is not to be mentioned, is found guilty and executed.
I'm hoping the murderer, whose name is not to be mentioned, is found guilty and executed.
Meanwhile, Back in Chicago
According to Chicago's WXRT, Chicago police are investigating the murders of 18 people in the city over this past weekend. One of the deadliest yet.
Most of them were black, even though they didn't say. One has to wonder how long it will be before they realize that this is a MUCH BIGGER problem than Confederate flags, statues and memorials.
One Has to Really Wonder. --Old Secesh
Most of them were black, even though they didn't say. One has to wonder how long it will be before they realize that this is a MUCH BIGGER problem than Confederate flags, statues and memorials.
One Has to Really Wonder. --Old Secesh
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 374: Lynching Memorial in South Carolina
From the October 15 and 21, 2016, Google Alerts for Confederate.
** Group sues University of Mississippi to remove contextualization plaque in front of Confederate monument. (SCV) The group is the Mississippi Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.
Personally, if the contextualization gets the racist groups off our backs, I'm ok with the revised plaque. Anybody that doesn't know that the slavery question was definitely involved in the formation of the Confederacy sure doesn't know much.
** Lynching memorial rises near revered Confederate sites. (Abbeville, South Carolina) (Win) The lynching of blacks in the postwar South never should have happened. It is a sad part of our history and I think it is only right that there should also be a monument to it.
You Can't Erase History, Good or Bad. --Old Secesh
** Group sues University of Mississippi to remove contextualization plaque in front of Confederate monument. (SCV) The group is the Mississippi Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.
Personally, if the contextualization gets the racist groups off our backs, I'm ok with the revised plaque. Anybody that doesn't know that the slavery question was definitely involved in the formation of the Confederacy sure doesn't know much.
** Lynching memorial rises near revered Confederate sites. (Abbeville, South Carolina) (Win) The lynching of blacks in the postwar South never should have happened. It is a sad part of our history and I think it is only right that there should also be a monument to it.
You Can't Erase History, Good or Bad. --Old Secesh
The Confederacy Under Attack-- Part 373: Efforts to Remove Confederate Emblem from Mississippi Flag Failing
From the October 14, 2016, Google Alerts for Confederate.
** Effort to strip Confederate emblem off state flag failing. (Mississippi) (Win) I still say this should be something put to a vote again. If the majority say it goes, I'd abide by that decision. What we can't have are politicians and members of the justice system giving in to those special and racist groups so much against the flag.
And, I am most surprised that the state still sends money to the universities after they have refused to fly the flag.
No Fly, No Pay. --Old Secesh
** Effort to strip Confederate emblem off state flag failing. (Mississippi) (Win) I still say this should be something put to a vote again. If the majority say it goes, I'd abide by that decision. What we can't have are politicians and members of the justice system giving in to those special and racist groups so much against the flag.
And, I am most surprised that the state still sends money to the universities after they have refused to fly the flag.
No Fly, No Pay. --Old Secesh
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